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Post by kevnixon on Jan 12, 2012 13:31:50 GMT
Re the above comment play every day in the summer and winter about 11.30 to 12.30 and I cannot recall being held up for more than 15 minutes at the most. Lets give factual information in this debate, Kevin you need to vary your starting time slightly and you'll have no bother In the winter I agree but the summer? ? 15 mins max ?? . I don't play at those times due to the waits involved. Either will any guests with me hence the problem
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Post by fredlowry on Jan 12, 2012 13:50:07 GMT
Finally, the chairman of the committee has produced a written statement in which he seeks to deride the TOGS en-mass, and others who disagree with him over this issue, this is the behaviour of a dictator who might not get his own way, not the chairman of a democratically elected golf club committee. After reading the Chairman's letter, I'm unclear how this comment came to be generated. The only contentious part of the said letter is the debate over the length of time members wait by the ball tube during busy periods. It seem to me that everything else is either fact or a business projection based on current trends. Perhaps the comment could be expanded upon. My own opinion on the ball tube is that it works satisfactorily for me and the group within which I play. This is almost certainly because we tend to start early in the day. Due to the Club's need to raise more revenue; on balance I'd rather have the "inconvienience" of a booking system over continually rising green fees, falling membership and consequently, less money being spent on and around the course.
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Post by kevnixon on Jan 12, 2012 14:01:50 GMT
Fred I couldn't agree more. People need to see the bigger picture
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Post by davearchbold on Jan 14, 2012 10:38:48 GMT
Kev you seemed to be obsessed with the cinema, 'the bigger picture' is that the ball tube works 90% of the time so why change it. Although we have not had a proper referendum I suspect that way more then 60% of members would go with the ball tube with a starting sheet in operation Saturday/Sunday mornings + the occasional Bank Holiday when most people are off work. The survey we did have showed 60% against scrapping the ball tube, so in my view their is a clear precedent for holding a full ballot of all members to test the issue. What we do not want is to have this issue settled by the committee without a vote for members. Contrary to the Chairman of Committee's thoughts this is a revoluntionary change(far reaching and drastic) in the workings of the club as opposed to his suggestion that it is evolutionary(gradual) If a proper vote was held with the right questions to vote upon I am sure that all members would go with the majority decision. Watch this space.
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Post by kevnixon on Jan 15, 2012 18:33:32 GMT
Why change it? Because the 10% it doesn't work is at peak times ie between 10am and 1130am largely due to "ball tube abuse" It would be much better to have a system that works 100% of the time. Or even a tee booking system prior to 2pm Weekdays and all weekends.
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Post by eddys on Jan 15, 2012 18:59:25 GMT
The way I interperated what was said at the AGM and in the Chairmans letter regarding a computor booking system is this: Many occational golfers are phoning the club wanting to book a tee time and are being told that we do not have a booking system and all they have to do is arrive at the club, put a ball in the tube and take their turn: This we are told is putting many people off as they would rather turn up for a specific time and be able to tee off then and not when they can slot in, thereby losing the club much needed revenue. We have a blackboard beside the practice green where tee booking times for visiting parties are advertised to let members know these parties will expect to play at arranged times. Surely if speculative golfers phone asking what times are available then any time slot can be given to them on the phone (there are diaries available to record such info) and the agreed time written on this board to give the same info to members It's not as if we are going to recieve a boat load of golfers all wanting to play the same day leaving members to wait hours on end so they can continue with the ball tube queue. This would aliviate the need for an expensive computor system, keep the ball tube for members only and stop worrying our older non-computor literate members.
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Post by davearchbold on Jan 17, 2012 12:17:13 GMT
I cannot expand more on this subject, it's a pity more computer literate members do not contribute to the debate instead of engaging in rumour and speculation. Just to clarify a definite fact, I am told that the new club website has nothing whatsoever to do with the proposed on line tee booking system. However if members want access to the new website they all need to register an e-mail address with the secretary ASAP. If your not registered you cannot access the website.
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Post by Paul Mclauchlin on Jan 17, 2012 15:39:31 GMT
Just to clarify a definite fact, I am told that the new club website has nothing whatsoever to do with the proposed on line tee booking system. However if members want access to the new website they all need to register an e-mail address with the secretary ASAP. If your not registered you cannot access the website. You sure about that Dave? My understanding is that the new website is a bolt on module which has been supplied alongside the new tee booking system?
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Post by Paul Mclauchlin on Jan 17, 2012 15:44:31 GMT
It also sounds a little restrictive to limit access to registered users? Will this not prevent any prospective customers gaining access to information about the club etc??
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Post by jamesdawson on Jan 17, 2012 16:48:33 GMT
Imagine the e-mail address would be needed to login to members area not to access general site.
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Post by Hole 19 on Jan 17, 2012 22:20:10 GMT
Questions: Tee time booked online 7am, turn up, another member turns up with what they believe to be the same tee time as yourself,neither back down, now how will this be resolved at that time in the morning, how will the system be monitored at "out of office" times. I'm intrigued, hopefully there will be a system in place to resolve such situations, because I'm sure that it will happen. Any members come across such situations ?
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Post by kevnixon on Jan 17, 2012 22:30:04 GMT
Members at around 98% of other golf courses seem to manage. It is supposed to be a gentleman/lady's game after all.
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Post by supersonic0asis on Jan 18, 2012 16:04:42 GMT
Hi all,
Just to clarify do we have to send an email address in now to register for this new site or will we receive some notification?
Thanks
Paul
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Post by davearchbold on Jan 18, 2012 20:10:46 GMT
Paul, you need to register with an e mail address asap. There is a notice in the gents wc to that effect. (or there was)
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Post by intercity69 on Jan 18, 2012 21:59:51 GMT
Fellow members this debate is going rumble on until the NEXT centenary if we are not careful. Dare I suggest we seek clarification on 2 points from the chairman & or the secetary. Point 1) what is the registration criteria regarding the new website. Point 2) when will the workshops be available (sooner the better get this issue put to bed either way)
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